tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9083883760117575042.post2804947948726850764..comments2023-09-04T04:38:19.868-07:00Comments on Conservative Cake & Liberal Icing: To my Mormon family and friendsCarson Calderwoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10714621901178413233noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9083883760117575042.post-62747645259118303542015-11-24T15:48:15.015-08:002015-11-24T15:48:15.015-08:00Definitely NOT a dear, dear friend. My close frien...Definitely NOT a dear, dear friend. My close friends know that I don't like the spotlight that my excommunication has given me and that I do it out of a responsibility I feel to speak out for those that can't, that suffer silently from pressure people like you create against authenticity and openness.<br /><br />"Mormons gonna Morm" was stated when someone (ironically, haha) sent me something anonymously in the mail. Maybe that was you, but alas, we can't know since that person and you are too scared to post/mail under your real name. Also, that phrase wasn't ridiculing, it was referencing a documented fact that Mormons are more passive aggressive than other cultures (https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/passive-aggression-among-the-latter-day-saints/) and that passive/aggressive behavior has picked up the phrase Morming. I was referencing that now oft used phrase people use to call out Mormon specific passive aggression.<br /><br />So, waiting for evidence of my conveniently documented ridiculing as you have said. I'd like to know where I called my posts bullying. I think you may have misread what I wrote so please reference that.<br /><br />I consider my position to be more than the intellectual high ground, I consider it the moral high ground. When people condone the new policy of isolating some children of gay parents and say they think it is the right thing to do all while also saying the church is lead by imperfect people but not standing up to those things done as imperfect men I feel you are trading your morals and your intellect for social convenience at the expense of your intuition. When do active, faithful Mormons that say they understand that the men are imperfect EVER do anything to show they see the brethren as doing things imperfectly? Tell me what you see as done incorrectly by these sometimes imperfect people and how you let them know that you thought what they did was less than perfect and I'll praise you for taking the moral high ground. Until then, you are not applying that idea uniformly across your Mormon experience, only post hoc on things that happened previously, never in the present, always in the past. Step up anonymous, to me and to the church!Carson Calderwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10714621901178413233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9083883760117575042.post-89365838524884019412015-11-24T09:41:02.480-08:002015-11-24T09:41:02.480-08:00Conveniently it's all documented, some on this...Conveniently it's all documented, some on this blog and throughout your Facebook posts and comments. "Mormons gotta morm." "Mormons..." You are the one who called your soemtimes mocking posts "bullying." <br /><br />Though you routinely claim the intellectual high ground, our heads may not be in the sand as much you imply. Many though definitely not all, realize the church is led by imperfect men, has a complicated history that tries our faith, and that there are many issues with church culture. We just come to different conclusions than you.<br /><br />Remember, when all the attention and fanfare and attention of your excommunication are over and no one is asking you to talk on their podcasts; it will be your tribe that still is concerned for your well being. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9083883760117575042.post-23705516082269376952015-11-23T16:34:49.197-08:002015-11-23T16:34:49.197-08:00Anonymous, apparently you can't tell the diffe...Anonymous, apparently you can't tell the difference between ridicule and criticize. Similarly, you can't tell the difference between doing either to an organization and those who are a part of it. If I say I hate how the USA doesn't do something, does that mean everyone in the USA is an idiot? Of course not, apply the same logic to the church please. If you think I'm wrong, please point out where I ridicule the members and not the policies or doctrines...<br /><br />I'm not asking for warm fuzzies so not sure why you're drawing that comparison. I'm letting family know that despite my love for them, I will continue to go against the church's hurtful policies and doctrines. Its to clarify that I'm not doing it to hurt them, I'm doing it despite how it hurts some of my family and friends. It doesn't hurt them all, many are differentiated emotionally enough to understand that and are not hurt at all. Since you will not say who you are, I must assume you are too enmeshed with the church to separate yourself from it when I say things towards the church. Not surprising though. The church breeds a very powerful enmeshment, something that mental health experts will say is not good.<br /><br />Similarly, I'm not miopically focused on bias in the church. I say it does many good things. I just point out the bad as well. Something most members are too afraid to do because it comes with too much social costs. <br /><br />So, I doubt we are dear, dear friends because I don't have any dear, dear friends that would have that many illogical statements, conclusions or inferences in two short paragraphs. My active LDS dear, dear friends know my story well enough to not say what you did.Carson Calderwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10714621901178413233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9083883760117575042.post-54873689315451048772015-11-23T09:25:31.627-08:002015-11-23T09:25:31.627-08:00My dear, dear friend Carson,
I think your tribe h...My dear, dear friend Carson,<br /> I think your tribe has been very understanding of you despite how you've consistently and publicly ridiculed them, their beliefs and customs. <br /><br /> I don't think you would have very warm fuzzy feelings towards me if on my facebook page I was often mocking secular humanists, what they believe and how they act. Or if I only myopically focused on bias in science, or when scientists were unethical- instead of acknowledging the great good that science has brought to the world since the industrial evolution. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9083883760117575042.post-88863119707598239702015-11-20T10:23:35.423-08:002015-11-20T10:23:35.423-08:00Sorry Anonymous, but you are missing two very impo...Sorry Anonymous, but you are missing two very important points. <br /><br />1-like someone said on my FB page, if you compare your wife to a rose does she understand the point you are making or does she get pissed that you think she has thorns, lives in the dirt and looks dead half of the year?<br /><br />2-even if you think the analogy is poor, that doesn't matter. The point is trying to understand how I feel. This isn't about you bud. This is about me trying to express my feelings. Maybe if you'd get down from your holy throne you'd care enough about people to want to understand them instead of just telling them how they are wrong :-(Carson Calderwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10714621901178413233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9083883760117575042.post-12618310948786796722015-11-19T13:53:57.063-08:002015-11-19T13:53:57.063-08:00Better tone towards family but a poor analogy. Yo...Better tone towards family but a poor analogy. You really think the church is comparatively as controlling as North Korea? You still seem to be playing the victim. You want to mock the church without offending members (bully the bully, as you have stated before)? You can't have it both ways, sorry. But this is improvement. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com